Alumni Chat - Presentation of International Students Online Community

[18:02] <Robert_Greenan_ECA_in_Kyiv> Hello Alumni!
[18:03] <Robert_Greenan_ECA_in_Kyiv> It is great to see so many alumni in tonite's chat
[18:03] <Helen_Rivne_CC2001> Helo Robert!
[18:03] <Alex_Kharkov_feb2002> Hi, it's Alex Shevchenko from Kharkov. My program was CC - Public Health - Prevention of Drug abuse and AIDS. winter 2002.
[18:03] <Lucy_CI_Kirovohrad> Valentina! Glad to hear from you. Lucy
[18:03] <Valentina_ComCon_CI_Donetsk> Hi, Robert! Nice meeting you.
[18:03] <Robert_Greenan_ECA_in_Kyiv> I work at the Department of State, Bureau of Educational and Cultural Affairs
[18:03] <lesia> Hello Mr Greenan! How do you like Kyiv?
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[18:03] <Kateryna_Uzhhorod_PiE> Thanks! We are also glad to meet you in Ukraine!
[18:04] <Robert_Greenan_ECA_in_Kyiv> Kyiv is very beautiful
[18:04] <Andriy_Saskiy> Hello Mr. Greenan, glad you are with us tonight!
[18:04] <Robert_Greenan_ECA_in_Kyiv> and thankfully nice and sunny
[18:04] <Volk> Hi, please respond Alumni RSEP-2000!
[18:04] <Robert_Greenan_ECA_in_Kyiv> Thanks, Andriy
[18:04] <Andriy_Saskiy> Hello everyone! I'm glad that all of you joined our virtual meeting!
[18:04] <Andriy_Saskiy> My name is Andriy Saskiy, I'm IATP representative in Khmelnitskiy and I'm also former participant
[18:04] <Andriy_Saskiy> of FSA Ugrad 2000 program.
[18:04] <Robert_Greenan_ECA_in_Kyiv> COngratulations on a great website
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[18:04] <Natalya_Sumy_CC> Hey, CC alumni!
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[18:04] <Vic_Luhansk_PIE> Hello,friends! Best wishes from Luhansk!
[18:05] <Robert_Greenan_ECA_in_Kyiv> What do you think is the best part of IATP?
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[18:05] <Helen_Rivne_CC2001> I'm CC alumna 2001
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[18:05] <Natasha_exchange_Kirovohrad> The best part in IATP is access to all possible information
[18:05] <Lucy_CI_Kirovohrad> I miss America as I left my heart there. Lucy
[18:05] <Olchik> fghjkmgh
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[18:05] <anya_fsa-ug2000_rivne> I am 2000 FSA ugrd too.
[18:05] <Nat_Lugansk_FSA> HELLO, EVERYBODY FROM LUGANSK, FSA FLEX 1997
[18:05] <Olesya_FSAUgrad_Ternopil> the best part of IATP is the possibility to use the Internet and to meet alumni-friends
[18:05] <ValeriyRyabuha_Chernihiv_CI_200> The best part is opportunitiy
[18:05] <Helen_Rivne_CC2001> the posibilities to study on-line is one of the best.
[18:05] <Olchik> ku-ku
[18:06] <Vic_Luhansk_PIE> Welcome,Mr.Greenen! Nice to meet you!
[18:06] <Natalya_Lviv_JFDP> Hello, everybody!
[18:06] <Robert_Greenan_ECA_in_Kyiv> Thank you!
[18:06] <Viktoria_Kharkov_CC_2001> Hi colleagues, my name is Viktoria , I am a travel manager from Kharkov
[18:06] <Andriy_Saskiy> opportunity to meet with other alumni...
[18:06] <Olena_FSA_Ternopil> to have an access to Internet connection
[18:06] <Robert_Greenan_ECA_in_Kyiv> Nice to meet all of you,too
[18:06] <Lucy_CI_Kirovohrad> I have many friends there: in Indiana and at the Voice of America. Lucy.
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[18:06] <Nataliya_Lutsk_FSAU> IATP in Lutsk gives a great opportunity to learn
[18:06] <Viktoria_Kharkov_CC_2001> nice to see all of you
[18:06] <Dana_FLEX_zp> <Dana_zp> Have ya'll ever thought of on-line english?
[18:06] <Robert_Greenan_ECA_in_Kyiv> Do you participate in trainings often?
[18:06] <Lyuba_FSA-ug1999_rivnr> the best part of IATP are the people who work here plus internet access
[18:06] <Olchik> hello everyone
[18:06] <Lucy_CI_Kirovohrad> Wish I studied in the USA again.Lucy.
[18:06] <Robert_Greenan_ECA_in_Kyiv> Yes, there are very talented people working at IATP
[18:06] <Larissa_Lutsk_PiE> Let's try to decide something
[18:06] <Natasha_exchange_Kirovohrad> What do you mean by on-line English?
[18:07] <Nat_Lugansk_FSA> AND WE IN LUGANSK HAVE FREE ENGLISH CLASSES FOR ALUMNI WHO DO NOT SPEAK ENGLISH BY ALUMNI WHO SPEAK ENGLISH
[18:07] <Andriy_Saskiy> So, I guess we should start our meeting...
[18:07] <Olchik> miss the US so much!!
[18:07] <Natasha_exchange_Kirovohrad> Agree
[18:07] <Lyuba_FSA-ug1999_rivnr> i'll do that more often now
[18:07] <anya_fsa-ug2000_rivne> good idea:)
[18:07] <Robert_Greenan_ECA_in_Kyiv> Wow. English classes for alumni is a wonderful idea
[18:07] <Valentina_ComCon_CI_Donetsk> I launched Global Cross-Cultural Communication Club for alumni, which I am President of.
[18:07] <Olesya_FSAUgrad_Ternopil> IATP gives very good opportunity to study something which is not available in the schoiols abnd the universities
[18:07] <Dana_FLEX_zp> The Englishof the Internet as a Phenomenon <Dana>
[18:07] <lesia> I would like to add here, that I strongly believe in on-line education!
[18:07] <Alex_Luhansk_FSA> Hello,guys!!!
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[18:07] <anya_fsa-ug2000_rivne> I mean starting the training, sounds like a good idea
[18:08] <ValeriyRyabuha_Chernihiv_CI_200> Guys: let us return to the main point of the chat
[18:08] <Larissa_Lutsk_PiE> Really good idea
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[18:08] <Peter_lg> Hello everyone!
[18:08] <Natasha_exchange_Kirovohrad> That's a great idea, I agree
[18:08] <Dana_FLEX_zp> Can anyone explain what's going on here?
[18:08] <lyubov_kharkiv> hello everybody, this chat is a wanderful idea
[18:08] <Helen_Rivne_CC2001> Deal
[18:08] <Olchik> education via e-net? wow!
[18:08] <Andriy_Saskiy> Let me introduce myself. My name is Andriy Saskiy, I'm IATP representative in Khmelnitskiy and I'm also former participant
[18:08] <Andriy_Saskiy> of FSA Ugrad 2000 program.
[18:08] <Nat_Lugansk_FSA> AND WE IN LUGANSK HAVE ALUMNI ADVISORY COUNCIL, THE FIRST IN UKRAINE,
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[18:08] <Alex_Luhansk_FSA> And it really works
[18:08] <Ira_LesyaFSAFLEX_Ternopil> IATP is the best way to keep the communications going, iit gives the opportunites to explore the world through the internet , we can also lern about web-designing, promote our ideas and to develope ourselves
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[18:08] <Lucy_CI_Kirovohrad> I 'll be very happy to exchange fresh ideas.Lucy.
[18:08] <anya_fsa-ug2000_rivne> Andtry, where was ur orientation?
[18:09] <Olchik> I am a representative of the Lviv alumni club
[18:09] <Andriy_Saskiy> Let us move to the point of our meeting.
[18:09] <Nat_Lugansk_FSA> HELLO, OLGA YAKIMAHO!
[18:09] <Lyuba_FSA-ug1999_rivnr> good point
[18:09] <Andriy_Saskiy> the topic of our meeting is “How to Build Successful Community Around Your Website–.
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[18:09] <Mykola_FSAUgrad_Kyiv_UA_Earth> Hey WE GOT TOPIC TO DISCUSS :)
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[18:09] <Dana_FLEX_zp> Andriy! what IS the point?
[18:09] <ribbons> hi, everybody
[18:09] <Andriy_Saskiy> The next
[18:09] <Andriy_Saskiy> hour I'm going to spend with you talking about internet communities, their development,
[18:09] <Lyuba_FSA-ug1999_rivnr> buy often chats
[18:09] <natashka> hello to all fsa students!!!
[18:09] <lesia> I LOVE LVIV IATP! It's a great place to meet friends! I don't feel lonely here
[18:10] <Dana_FLEX_zp> In what way do you see the development/
[18:10] <ribbons> hi, natashka!
[18:10] <Lyuba_FSA-ug1999_rivnr> sorry by often chats
[18:10] <Andriy_Saskiy> and I'll try to explain you how
[18:10] <Andriy_Saskiy> to harness their power for your website
[18:10] <Peter_lg> Natashka where are you from?
[18:10] <Helen_Rivne_CC2001> to build successful community means to co-operate constantly with alumni.
[18:10] <Natasha_exchange_Kirovohrad> How do you form those communities?
[18:10] <Ira_LesyaFSAFLEX_Ternopil> aslo IAT centers give the oppartunity to the people who never previously had any opprtunity to learn and to deal with internet and compters in general
[18:10] <Mykola_FSAUgrad_Kyiv_UA_Earth> Andy? you better try to explain that you are talking about the website
[18:10] <Natalya_Lviv_JFDP> Hi, I agree with you, Lesia!
[18:10] <Vic_Luhansk_PIE> As for me I am a member of one Internet community called *VirtualTourist.com. My address there is : www.virtualtourist.com/hunterV I also hooked my school web site as an external page there...
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[18:10] <Lucy_CI_Kirovohrad> Internet communities is a good idea, but it's expensive for me.Lucy.
[18:10] <Olya_Yakimakho> O, guys, please let Andrey Saskiy tell us what he has prepared for today.
[18:10] <natashka> i am from Sevastopol
[18:11] <Olesya_FSAUgrad_Ternopil> Mykola, is it you?
[18:11] <Dana_FLEX_zp> Go on Andriy
[18:11] <Helen_Rivne_CC2001> community itself is a group of alumni, joined by the idea of co-work.
[18:11] <Nat_Lugansk_FSA> GUYS, LET'S LISTEN TO TO ANDRIY!
[18:11] <Andriy_Saskiy> First, we all know what community is.
[18:11] <ribbons> ok
[18:11] <Lyuba_FSA-ug1999_rivnr> how is the weather in Sevastopol?
[18:11] <Olya_Yakimakho> EVERYONE - please keep to the topic. The training has started!
[18:11] <Andriy_Saskiy> But what is internet community? Any ideas?
[18:11] <ribbons> what is Andrey saying?
[18:11] <Larissa_Lutsk_PiE> To buit such community means to work with many people who have common ideas, who can support you
[18:11] <Dana_FLEX_zp> Don't you think that e-net communities could be addictive?
[18:11] <Alex_Luhansk_FSA> Support the idea of LISTENNING TO ANREW
[18:11] <Nat_Lugansk_FSA> internet community is a group of people united by their communicating through the internet, who share the same ideas and stuff like that
[18:12] <ribbons> sure
[18:12] <Natasha_exchange_Kirovohrad> I think it's a group of people joined by the common ideas through Internet
[18:12] <ValeriyRyabuha_Chernihiv_CI_200> People who have something in common
[18:12] <Lucy_CI_Kirovohrad> I think this is the best way to find new friends, and to share experience.Lucy.
[18:12] <Mykola_FSAUgrad_Kyiv_UA_Earth> Virtual friends???
[18:12] <Andriy_Saskiy> Right:)
[18:12] <natashka> what do you think about web design,do we need it or not
[18:12] <Helen_Rivne_CC2001> internet community is the possibility to join any idea and communicate.
[18:12] <Andriy_Saskiy> Very often while browsing the internet you may notice such things as:
[18:12] <Vic_Luhansk_PIE> By the way, all of you guys can join www.virtualtourist.com It's free and it shows what an Internet community is!
[18:12] <Andriy_Saskiy> forums, discussion/message
[18:12] <Andriy_Saskiy> boards, online communities.
[18:12] <Ira_LesyaFSAFLEX_Ternopil> to us, internet community is all the people who are involved in the net
[18:12] <Lyuba_FSA-ug1999_rivnr> it's not virtual friends some of us actually met each other
[18:12] <Helen_Rivne_CC2001> forums are great!!!
[18:12] <Andriy_Saskiy> These are all the same.
[18:12] <Mykola_FSAUgrad_Kyiv_UA_Earth> some of us nopt
[18:13] <Olchik> web design is a very good idea to express yourself, don't you think?
[18:13] <Dana_FLEX_zp> what kind of forums
[18:13] <Mykola_FSAUgrad_Kyiv_UA_Earth> nopt=not
[18:13] <lesia> WE definitely need to develop web design skills
[18:13] <Larissa_Lutsk_PiE> Ithink the most important thing is to make other people listen to your ideas.
[18:13] <Lucy_CI_Kirovohrad> I have plenty of ideas.
[18:13] <Andriy_Saskiy> as you told, community is the virtual place
[18:13] <Andriy_Saskiy> (website for example) where people gather together on regular basis to share their ideas and
[18:13] <Andriy_Saskiy> experience, or just to talk.
[18:13] <Dana_FLEX_zp> like what?
[18:13] <Lyuba_FSA-ug1999_rivnr> that's what we did today
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[18:13] <Olchik> I think it's realy hard to make someone to listen to you!
[18:13] <Alex_Luhansk_FSA> LET's SHARE our ideas
[18:13] <Natasha_exchange_Kirovohrad> Can you make people listen to you or attract them to your ideas?
[18:13] <Natalya_Lviv_JFDP> What did you do today?
[18:14] <Dana_FLEX_zp> people~! We''re getting nowhere chatting liike this!
[18:14] <Volk> Please, respond alumni RSEP!
[18:14] <Lyuba_FSA-ug1999_rivnr> you can try at least
[18:14] <Lucy_CI_Kirovohrad> We usually gather in the Alumni Center.
[18:14] <natashka> Can you share,lucy, with your ideas on web projects
[18:14] <Peter_lg> Volk where are you from?
[18:14] <ribbons> anybody been to Baltimore city?
[18:14] <Dana_FLEX_zp> world over
[18:14] <Natasha_exchange_Kirovohrad> For people to listen to you the idea should be attrctive and presented in a good way.
[18:14] <Larissa_Lutsk_PiE> Ideas are really good thing when you can help other people, not only to say that you have a plenty of ideas
[18:14] <Peter_lg> Mi
[18:14] <Andriy_Saskiy> Now I'd like to share my own experience in developing community.
[18:14] <ribbons> really?
[18:14] <Dana_FLEX_zp> go on
[18:15] <Natalya_Lviv_JFDP> Please, do
[18:15] <Olchik> the deal is that it seems that people are busy with themselves and just don't even give an opportunity to get them interested
[18:15] <Helen_Rivne_CC2001> we are all ears
[18:15] <Dana_FLEX_zp> right!
[18:15] <ribbons> where did you like the most, Dana?
[18:15] <Nataliya_Lutsk_FSAU> we are all ears
[18:15] <Andriy_Saskiy> Let me present you my site.
[18:15] <Dana_FLEX_zp> Texas a
[18:15] <ribbons> Dallas?
[18:15] <Andriy_Saskiy> I started this website while I was participant of FSA Ugrad program.
[18:15] <Dana_FLEX_zp> and Scandinavia
[18:15] <Peter_lg> Who is from Texas?
[18:15] <ribbons> cool
[18:15] <Lucy_CI_Kirovohrad> I share it with my colleagues and friends. And I was extremely happy when some people from abroad e-mailed me and thanked for the site.
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[18:15] <Dana_FLEX_zp> Ne
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[18:15] <Peter_lg> Ribbons I'm from Arlington
[18:15] <Volk> I am from NTU "KhPI".
[18:15] <ribbons> austin?
[18:15] <Dana_FLEX_zp> Who is from TX
[18:16] <Andriy_Saskiy> First this was only a chat. And every night it gathered dozens of other exchange students in it
[18:16] <Andriy_Saskiy> who felt lack of communication at the foreign country. Later forums were added and every day
[18:16] <Andriy_Saskiy> there was a new discussion there.
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[18:16] <Dana_FLEX_zp> SAn Antonio
[18:16] <Peter_lg> Volk what is your major, by the way are you fsa?
[18:16] <Dana_FLEX_zp> most of us
[18:16] <natashka> Lucy, where are you from
[18:16] <Larissa_Lutsk_PiE> Does anybody try to speak out your ideas at your schools, universities?
[18:16] <MariaMakovska_IATP> Dear friends: please pay attention to what Andriy Saskiy says.
[18:16] <Natasha_exchange_Kirovohrad> Yes, we do!
[18:16] <Andriy_Saskiy> Please take a minute to take a look at abroadplanet.com
[18:16] <Dana_FLEX_zp> we do
[18:16] <Lucy_CI_Kirovohrad> I'm from Kirovohrad region, a small town of Znamyanka.
[18:16] <Mykola_FSAUgrad_Kyiv_UA_Earth> Abroad was a great deal while I was in states
[18:16] <Peter_lg> Dana I've been there, it was awsome!
[18:16] <ribbons> anybody knows smn 0f the 2000 alimni from uzbekistan?
[18:16] <natashka> what year did you spend in usa
[18:17] <Dana_FLEX_zp> ou thiink so?
[18:17] <Lucy_CI_Kirovohrad> I was there in 2001. Indiana.
[18:17] <Volk> My major is Basics of Energy Market and Information Technology.
[18:17] <Andriy_Saskiy> Please browse this website, be sure to drop by forums section.
[18:17] <Peter_lg> Dana why not?
[18:17] <Dana_FLEX_zp> what did you like the most?
[18:17] <Andriy_Saskiy> Forums - is the heart of every online community...
[18:17] <Peter_lg> Volk when have you been FSA?
[18:17] <natashka> wow, i was in 2001 but in Washington state
[18:18] <Lyudmyla_RSEP> Today training on Web-resources was very usefull, thanks!
[18:18] <Helen_Rivne_CC2001> Nice site
[18:18] <Andriy_Saskiy> by taking a look into forums, you may say if the community is healthy... is it alive or dead..
[18:18] <ribbons> anybody knows Tanya Kirey?
[18:18] <natashka> Lucy did you like usa
[18:18] <Andriy_Saskiy> Have you checked the site so far?
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[18:19] <Robert_Greenan_ECA_in_Kyiv> Andriy: Your website is very impressive
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[18:19] <Robert_Greenan_ECA_in_Kyiv> when did you start building it?
[18:19] <Andriy_Saskiy> Thank you Mr. Greenan
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[18:20] <Andriy_Saskiy> I started this website while I was participant of FSA Ugrad program.
[18:20] <Robert_Greenan_ECA_in_Kyiv> which year?
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[18:20] <Andriy_Saskiy> FSA 2000
[18:20] <Andriy_Saskiy> First this website had only one forum and a chat
[18:21] <Robert_Greenan_ECA_in_Kyiv> and how many registered users do you have now in the forums?
[18:21] <Andriy_Saskiy> and every night there were dozens of other international students who wanted to stay in touch with their friends..
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[18:21] <Andriy_Saskiy> as for the moment there are more than 500 registered users...
[18:21] <Robert_Greenan_ECA_in_Kyiv> that is great
[18:22] <Robert_Greenan_ECA_in_Kyiv> are they mostly from the UGRAD program?
[18:22] <Andriy_Saskiy> we also have a team of members that help me to develop this project
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[18:23] <Andriy_Saskiy> mostly from Ugrad and Flex, but we do have some other international students from allover the world
[18:23] <Andriy_Saskiy> so we have a team of almost 20 members from different NIS countries
[18:23] <Robert_Greenan_ECA_in_Kyiv> ok..thats great...but i am keeping you from your presentation...sorry
[18:23] <Andriy_Saskiy> no, that's fine:)
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[18:24] <Andriy_Saskiy> so, as you see from my example community can be a powerful tool in developing your site
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[18:24] <Andriy_Saskiy> as far as I understand, all ow you either have websites or intend to have one.. right?
[18:25] <Andriy_Saskiy> how many of you have developed their websites?
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[18:25] <Olya_Yakimakho> Dear participants - do not worry that you can not talk right now - Andrey will give his presentation (materials he had prepared and aftre that you will all be able to talk!
[18:26] <Valentina_ComCon_CI_Donetsk> Thanks to IATP I launched my website in 2000.
[18:26] <Natalya_Lviv_JFDP> I have developed my site about holidays in Greece
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[18:26] <Volk> Yes I have got my personal web-page.
[18:26] <Natasha_exchange_Kirovohrad> I have developed my site a few months ago
[18:26] <Lucy_CI_Kirovohrad> I developed my site in Britain, but due to IREX I have it in Internet
[18:27] <lyubov_kharkiv> I have one, updated it once
[18:27] <Volk> Peter where are you? Why are you keeping silent?
[18:27] <Viktoria_Kharkov_CC_2001> Valentina, was it helpful for you -- your web site?
[18:27] <Andriy_Saskiy> well... I'm sure many of you have websites...
[18:27] <Natashka> I first got known with web design due to iatp, thank you!!!
[18:27] <Valentina_ComCon_CI_Donetsk> People from all over the world find me by my site. It's so great!
[18:27] <Ira_LesyaFSAFLEX_Ternopil> we have a personal web-page in the fall of2002
[18:27] <Andriy_Saskiy> and I guess that everyone would love to add forums...
[18:27] <Helen_Rivne_CC2001> Quite right
[18:27] <Natalya_Lviv_JFDP> Of course!
[18:28] <Viktoria_Kharkov_CC_2001> how could they find you and what happened after they found you?
[18:28] <Repkov_IATP_Sebastopol> A question for all - what software do you use when creating pages?
[18:28] <Lyudmyla_RSEP> I have my personal web-site to.
[18:28] <Nataliya_Lutsk_FSAU> Andriy, are there professional web-designers in your team? Are you?
[18:28] <Andriy_Saskiy> Using technical base that is provided by IATP it is pretty easy to add forums to your website
[18:28] <Viktoria_Kharkov_CC_2001> Valentyna, I mean any useful contacts for your bussiness?
[18:28] <Andrey_Sevastopol> Repkov_IATP_Sebastopol NOTEPAD
[18:28] <Natasha_exchange_Kirovohrad> What base should we use?
[18:29] <Andriy_Saskiy> and in such a way to get some interaction for his or her web site
[18:29] <Natalya_Lviv_JFDP> What can you recommend about using forums?
[18:29] <Andriy_Saskiy> Iatp provides free webhosting and also technical support
[18:29] <Lucy_CI_Kirovohrad> You can't believe! My folk who lives in Italy now, after watching my site(I wrote about him in my site as he's a famous musician) was happy to know that people in Ukraine remember him
[18:29] <Valentina_ComCon_CI_Donetsk> Yes
[18:29] <Helen_Rivne_CC2001> Andriy, next month we're going to have a traiing session in web desigh in Rivne IATP.
[18:29] <Kateryna_Uzhhorod_PiE> Uzhhorod Alumni created their Club-site
[18:29] <Repkov_IATP_Sebastopol> <Andrey_Sevastopol> :)
[18:29] <Viktoria_Kharkov_CC_2001> PLease, tell some words
[18:29] <Andriy_Saskiy> so, it is possible to do that..
[18:29] <Hrytsyuk_Chernihiv_CC_2001> Dear Andriy, I am a beginer as a chat participant, i think your cite is very interesting. I am on start of personal web-cite creation and will be glad to have got your advices a bit later.
[18:30] <Valentina_ComCon_CI_Donetsk> I would like to add forum to my site.
[18:30] <Andrey_Sevastopol> Repkov_IATP_Sebastopol :)
[18:30] <Andriy_Saskiy> but before taking this decision, you need to make sure
[18:30] <Natasha_exchange_Kirovohrad> Can we get training in adding forums?
[18:30] <Helen_Rivne_CC2001> by the way, we have won a grant for the project connected with the creation of media centers in rivne
[18:30] <Viktoria_Kharkov_CC_2001> I'd like to create my own web site with some useful info like a travel manager
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[18:30] <Andrey_Sevastopol> Valentina_ComCon_CI_Donetsk Then you will need to study PHP
[18:30] <Volk> Is anybody from English-speaking world participating in this chat now?
[18:30] <Repkov_IATP_Sebastopol> Maybe let's slow down a bit?
[18:30] <Andriy_Saskiy> that you understand that building a community is like building a brand... it takes a lot of time and energy
[18:31] <lyubov_kharkiv> the training today was very stimulating, feel the need to improve myself in that area
[18:31] <Olya_Yakimakho> Volk - yes, Robert Greenan from State Department
[18:31] <Andriy_Saskiy> I have prepared an article "How to Buid community from the "scratch"
[18:32] <Olesya_FSAUgrad_Ternopil> scratch?
[18:32] <Helen_Rivne_CC2001> waht is "scratch:?
[18:32] <Andrey_Sevastopol> Andriy_Saskiy That is interesting
[18:32] <Olya_Yakimakho> A short announcement - after Andrey's presentation you will all have a chance to talk to Robert!
[18:32] <Natashka> What do we should to represent on our web pages?
[18:32] <Lucy_CI_Kirovohrad> Unfortunately, I live in Znamyanka where there's no IATP Center. So, I have to go to Kirovohrad. It's nice!
[18:32] <Natasha_exchange_Kirovohrad> Where can we find iy?
[18:32] <Olchik> all information is very usefull.. even for those who are just "freshmen" in this area..:)
[18:32] <Andriy_Saskiy> be sure to pick up your copy and to learn how to do that
[18:32] <Andriy_Saskiy> from Scratch - from the ground:)
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[18:33] <Natalya_Lviv_JFDP> Does anybody want to give some hints in creating web-sites?
[18:33] <Andriy_Saskiy> Folks, let us get back to abroadplanet.com as a case study
[18:33] <Andrey_Sevastopol> Nataliya_Lutsk_FSAU
[18:33] <Olchik> ok
[18:33] <Valentina_ComCon_CI_Donetsk> forum is good but it would need a lot of effort to keep it going.
[18:33] <Natashka> And ideas!!!
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[18:33] <Andrey_Sevastopol> Nataliya_Lutsk_FSAU Hints like what
[18:33] <Andriy_Saskiy> Please take a look at http://forums.abroadplanet.com
[18:33] <Lucy_CI_Kirovohrad> The main hint to make web-ste - to know for sure what you'd like to create.
[18:34] <Natalya_Lviv_JFDP> Thanks, Lucy
[18:34] <Natalya_Lviv_JFDP> What about using forums?
[18:34] <Olchik> I have the same problem
[18:34] <Lucy_CI_Kirovohrad> You're welcome
[18:34] <Andriy_Saskiy> Please browse the forums, and take a look at some discussions
[18:35] <Natalya_Lviv_JFDP> What discussions?
[18:35] <Andriy_Saskiy> Topics
[18:35] <Andriy_Saskiy> in our case, It is a place where anyone and everyone can go to learn about life and studying in the USA.
[18:35] <Volk> Information concerning the development of Web-site is rather interesting and useful. In kharkiv we conduct regularly workshops to this point and especially in IATP center.
[18:35] <Andriy_Saskiy> and get answers for their questions from fellow students.
[18:36] <Andriy_Saskiy> as you see, the community is quite popular...
[18:36] <Andriy_Saskiy> what do you think are the reasons of it's success?
[18:36] <Natasha_exchange_Kirovohrad> Yes, but the problems is access to Internet
[18:36] <Nataliya_Lutsk_FSAU> HOW to add a forum to a web-site, what program?
[18:36] <Natashka> Should we just talk only about our USA year on web sites???
[18:36] <Natalya_Lviv_JFDP> Definitely, we can see it
[18:37] <Ira_LesyaFSAFLEX_Ternopil> The reason of success is interaction.
[18:37] <ValeriyRyabuha_Chernihiv_CI_200> People get homesick
[18:37] <Andriy_Saskiy> This is just to illustrate how community works. You may want to start community in any topic you want.
[18:37] <Mykola_FSAUgrad_Kyiv_UA_Earth> beer next saturday?
[18:37] <Andriy_Saskiy> Exactly! First step - is to allocate the demand for your forums!
[18:37] <Mykola_FSAUgrad_Kyiv_UA_Earth> that was an example
[18:37] <Olya_Yakimakho> Ideas: articles, poems, genealogy fo your family, it's history, resume, pictures, stories about your traveel, 4etc..
[18:38] <sumy_iatp> andriy - what does it mean "BRAT -3"
[18:38] <Natalya_Lviv_JFDP> Maybe today?
[18:38] <Mykola_FSAUgrad_Kyiv_UA_Earth> :) tell them
[18:38] <Larissa_Lutsk_PiE> When in uSA it is easy to see how to do this thing or other, but for me peronlly it is not easy to apply all this in our society
[18:38] <Andriy_Saskiy> second: you need to love your subject...
[18:38] <Natasha_exchange_Kirovohrad> I have a great topic but I am not sure I will find people who are really interested in it.
[18:38] <Lucy_CI_Kirovohrad> I love it!
[18:38] <Andriy_Saskiy> Brat-3 is just the name of the commnunity..
[18:39] <sumy_iatp> thank you
[18:39] <Viktoria_Kharkov_CC_2001> Natasha, which topik?
[18:39] <Olchik> Tasha! go ahead!
[18:39] <Andriy_Saskiy> 3) you need to decide for yourself if you are going to put enough effort into that
[18:39] <Natalya_Lviv_JFDP> What do you mean - to start the community?
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[18:39] <Viktoria_Kharkov_CC_2001> you can taste it here
[18:39] <Natalya_Sumy_CC> How can I create my own e-photoalbum? Should I to register to be able to locate my photoalbum?
[18:39] <Natasha_exchange_Kirovohrad> Hiow do you let people know that there is such a forum somwhere?
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[18:39] <Andriy_Saskiy> First you create forums, than you email your friends etc...
[18:39] <Olchik> sorry, don't know myself, but I'm really interested in that too
[18:40] <Olesya_FSAUgrad_Ternopil> just a few words: this community really helped the participants of FSA when we were still in the USA, because this was probably the only one gateway from everything what we had in real life in the States
[18:40] <Natasha_exchange_Kirovohrad> OK, how do you creat forums?
[18:40] <Nataliya_Lutsk_FSAU> Andriy, HOW to creat a forum? What program to use?
[18:40] <Andriy_Saskiy> promoting the community is the same thing as promoting the website... and you all had an opportunity to see the presentation before our chat
[18:40] <Lucy_CI_Kirovohrad> Unfortunately, I was out
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[18:40] <Andriy_Saskiy> Nataliya, I'll get to that in a few minutes:)
[18:41] <Andriy_Saskiy> But as I told, the main thing is to find the demand for your forums
[18:42] <Natalya_Lviv_JFDP> Were all of you exchange students?
[18:42] <Andriy_Saskiy> As for creating forums for your website...
[18:42] <Larissa_Lutsk_PiE> We'll try to do it
[18:42] <Andriy_Saskiy> there is a bunch of free software at the internet that will do the work for you
[18:42] <Andriy_Saskiy> yes, we were all exchange students
[18:43] <Helen_Rivne_CC2001> how can we find this bunch of software?
[18:43] <Natalya_Lviv_JFDP> Happy for you
[18:43] <Andriy_Saskiy> there are 2 types of forums that you can use
[18:43] <Andriy_Saskiy> 1) those that are hosted on your host
[18:43] <Olchik> like what?
[18:43] <Volk> Olga, when are you going to visit Alumni Club - InterAcademia in Kharkiv?
[18:44] <Andriy_Saskiy> 2) those that are remotly hosted
[18:44] <Natalya_Lviv_JFDP> Like what?
[18:44] <Andriy_Saskiy> you can use any of them, but I want to make you aware that if you are going to use forums from places like narod.ru they are going to put tons of banners on them:)
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[18:45] <Natasha_exchange_Kirovohrad> Where do you advise to start them?
[18:45] <Natalya_Lviv_JFDP> Who is Y_S_K?
[18:45] <Andriy_Saskiy> fortunately, you guys have an opportunity to host them on iatp server for free!
[18:46] <Natasha_exchange_Kirovohrad> Great!
[18:46] <Natalya_Lviv_JFDP> Super!
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[18:46] <Olchik> IATP does help :)
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[18:46] <Lucy_CI_Kirovohrad> I have it free now.
[18:46] <Natalya_Lviv_JFDP> Really!
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[18:46] <Natalya_Lviv_JFDP> Y_S_K, are you in or out?
[18:46] <Natasha_exchange_Kirovohrad> What do we have to do to start it there?
[18:46] <Andriy_Saskiy> Those of you who are interested in developing their forums, will have an opportunity to have another online chat and I'll teach you how to install the software
[18:47] <Olchik> thank you
[18:47] <Andriy_Saskiy> Just sign up at your local iatp center
[18:47] <Olchik> well, we are
[18:47] <Helen_Rivne_CC2001> if it is posible, Andriy, can i receive an e-mail copy?
[18:47] <Natalya_Sumy_CC> Have you already fixed the day for this chat?
[18:47] <Viktoria_Kharkov_CC_2001> how can I sign up?
[18:48] <Alex_Kharkov_feb2002> Thanks for talking. See you all. Best regards.
[18:48] <Olchik> See ya!
[18:48] <Natalya_Lviv_JFDP> Bye!
[18:48] <Andriy_Saskiy> we will assign the date later
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[18:48] <Vic_Luhansk_PIE> All the best! See you online! www.lec.iatp.org.ua
[18:48] <Viktoria_Kharkov_CC_2001> OK
[18:48] <Lucy_CI_Kirovohrad> Wish we meet again soon
[18:48] <Viktoria_Kharkov_CC_2001> Thank you Andriy
[18:48] <Andriy_Saskiy> now we have a couple minutes left. Feel free to ask any questions you may have
[18:48] <Nat_Lugansk_FSA> it was nice talking to you, bye everybody, for more info about Lugansk Alumni advisory counsil or anything you are welcome to write to natashenka17@hotmail.com
[18:48] <Viktoria_Kharkov_CC_2001> thanks for all
[18:49] <Natasha_exchange_Kirovohrad> Looking forward to that chat!
[18:49] <Andriy_Saskiy> Also join our community by registering at our site at: http://register.abroadplanet.com/
[18:49] <Viktoria_Kharkov_CC_2001> People, I wish you success!!!
[18:49] <Natalya_Lviv_JFDP> Thank you all!
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[18:49] <Olchik> You are doing a GREAT JOB!!
[18:49] <Helen_Rivne_CC2001> 't was nice to talk to ya all!
[18:49] <Vic_Luhansk_PIE> Bye,folks!
[18:50] <Lucy_CI_Kirovohrad> Do you have any info about the programs for journalists, who are not very young?
[18:50] <Helen_Rivne_CC2001> Definitely great one!
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[18:50] <lyubov_kharkiv> Best luck to everybody
[18:50] <Robert_Greenan_ECA_in_Kyiv> Thanks, Andriy
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[18:50] <Natalya_Sumy_CC> Hope to see you again soon...Here within our community
[18:50] <sumy_iatp> Andriy, how long time do you work on this site every day?
[18:50] <Andriy_Saskiy> at our site we have a directory of organizations that provide financial aid for students and professionals
[18:50] <Natalya_Lviv_JFDP> Andrij, when is the next chat taking place?
[18:50] <Robert_Greenan_ECA_in_Kyiv> This has been a very good session
[18:50] <Lucy_CI_Kirovohrad> Thanks to everyone. It was lovely.
[18:51] <Olesya_FSAUgrad_Ternopil> thanks to everybody and take care
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[18:51] <valentina_shinghere_fb_ch> Thank you very much, Angriy. I've found this presentation very informative for me!
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[18:51] <Ira_LesyaFSAFLEX_Ternopil> our webpage was our first attempt, and though it is not exactly as we wnted to see it, please check out and you can always write us some suggestions and advice, thank you : www.iatp.ternopil.org.ua/ira_lesya
[18:51] <Viktoria_Kharkov_CC_2001> Robert, enjoy your days in beautiful Kiev :)
[18:52] <Natalya_Lviv_JFDP> Bye, all!
[18:52] <Andriy_Saskiy> Mr. Greenan, thanks for joining us!
[18:52] <Robert_Greenan_ECA_in_Kyiv> thank you Viktoria!
[18:52] <Robert_Greenan_ECA_in_Kyiv> It was my pleasure
[18:52] <Robert_Greenan_ECA_in_Kyiv> I am glad to see so many alumni in the chat
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[18:52] <Y_S_K> It"s interesting type of communication. Thanks
[18:52] <Volk> Alumni Club Interacademia appreciate your participation in this chat!
[18:52] <Lucy_CI_Kirovohrad> Mr. Greenan, do you have any info about the programs for journalists, who are not very young?
[18:53] <Viktoria_Kharkov_CC_2001> Robert, we're here thanks to YOU
[18:53] <Valentina_ComCon_CI_Donetsk> Thank you very much from Donetsk1
[18:53] <Viktoria_Kharkov_CC_2001> and to the program of cource
[18:53] <Mykola_FSAUgrad_Kyiv_UA_Earth> C ya guys, it was to c ya all
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[18:53] <Robert_Greenan_ECA_in_Kyiv> Lucy please take a look at exchanges.state.gov
[18:53] <Andriy_Saskiy> Folks! Those of you who are serious about setting up forums please contact your local IATP center to sign up for the next session!
[18:53] <Robert_Greenan_ECA_in_Kyiv> There you can find information on all Depart of State sponsored programs
[18:53] <lesia> bye
[18:54] <Kateryna_Uzhhorod_PiE> IATP is the only place where alumni can communicate
[18:54] <Lucy_CI_Kirovohrad> Thanks, Mr. Greenan, but most of them are for young...
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[18:54] <MariaMakovska_IATP> the date of next session is TBD, but if you liked the idea, we will definitely do it
[18:55] <Robert_Greenan_ECA_in_Kyiv> You many want to find out about Community Connections
[18:55] <Andrey_Sevastopol> It is nice that we have past-program organization IaTP
[18:55] <Nataliya_Lutsk_FSAU> Thank you for your ideas! BTW, IATP - Internet Alumni Talking Program :)
[18:55] <Andriy_Saskiy> Thanks everyone for participating, if you have any questions about today's topic, or abroadplanet.com feel free to email me at saskiy@iatp.org.ua
[18:55] <Lucy_CI_Kirovohrad> And thank you.
[18:55] <Andrey_Sevastopol> Andriy_Saskiy Who developed that site?
[18:56] <Lyudmyla_RSEP> Thanks, Robert, from alumny InterClub from Kharkiv! A lit or them are now at this chat.
[18:56] <Andriy_Saskiy> Andrey, I did the technical side, but as I said there are a lot of other people involved... drop me a line if you want to join us:)
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[18:57] <Andrey_Sevastopol> e-mail me if you wanna to at alans@bios.iuf.net do it in a couple days cause I got my computer mixed up a little bit
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[18:57] <Andrey_Sevastopol> I will fix it a few days
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[18:58] <Hrytsyuk_Chernihiv_CC_2001> Andriy, thank you for good job, be successful
[18:58] <Robert_Greenan_ECA_in_Kyiv> http://exchanges.state.gov/education/citizens/comcon/index.htm This is the URL for Community Connections
[18:59] <Andriy_Saskiy> another point:) the success of the community can't be determined by the success of only one member:)
[18:59] <Natasha_exchange_Kirovohrad> What else does it depend on?
[19:00] <Andriy_Saskiy> it depends on the success of all community members and the extent of their participation
[19:01] <Andrey_Sevastopol> thanks to everyone I GOTTA GO, bye
[19:01] <Natalya_Sumy_CC> so - keep in touch and develop our opportunities - together!
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[19:01] <Natasha_exchange_Kirovohrad> This problem is really interesting and I think I need to find those who are interested in what I and my friends are doing.
[19:01] <Robert_Greenan_ECA_in_Kyiv> Good luck to you all -- and keep building this great IATP alumni community! I hope to meet you in person someday.
[19:01] <Ira_LesyaFSAFLEX_Ternopil> it was nice communicating with you, it was very great talking to Mr Greenan and thanks for the presentation
[19:01] <Natasha_exchange_Kirovohrad> I will be looking forward to our next chat to find out the ways to do it.
[19:01] <Viktoria_Kharkov_CC_2001> That would be great Robert
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[19:02] <Andriy_Saskiy> Natasha, could you please share with us your activities?
[19:02] <Hrytsyuk_Chernihiv_CC_2001> I hope your example will be attrective for many of participants of this chat
[19:02] <Kateryna_Uzhhorod_PiE> Thank you, Mr.Greenan! You are welcome!
[19:02] <Natasha_exchange_Kirovohrad> We are doing Philosophy for children in Kirovohrad. We have just started but we feel the need to change the educational system gradually.
[19:02] <Viktoria_Kharkov_CC_2001> Robert, thank you for inspiration.It is important for us
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[19:03] <Natasha_exchange_Kirovohrad> This program is about democratizing education
[19:03] <Viktoria_Kharkov_CC_2001> Natasha, this is interesting
[19:04] <Natasha_exchange_Kirovohrad> Our community here is vwery small and we want to share our ideas with other people who are interested in it.
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[19:04] <Viktoria_Kharkov_CC_2001> Bye People!!! Good luck for all!!
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[19:05] <Hrytsyuk_Chernihiv_CC_2001> By everybody!
[19:05] <Natasha_exchange_Kirovohrad> We work with kids at school, I have Grade 6 and they are great philosophers!
[19:05] <Viktoria_Kharkov_CC_2001> my email address is wisdomua@yahoo.com... I'll be happy to meet new friends
[19:05] <Viktoria_Kharkov_CC_2001> and partners
[19:05] <Natasha_exchange_Kirovohrad> My e-mail is nkoltko@kspu.kr.ua
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[19:07] <Natasha_exchange_Kirovohrad> My website is kirovohrad.iatp.org.ua/koltko
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[19:09] <Kateryna_Uzhhorod_PiE> Thank you everybody! It was nice to meet you. Good-bye!
[19:09] <Natasha_exchange_Kirovohrad> There is a P4C page in it with links and there are also some articles about it for those who are intersted
[19:09] <Valentina_ComCon_CI_Donetsk> Thanks again to IATP project for providing alumni with wonderful opportunities for professional development.
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[19:10] <Viktoria_Kharkov_CC_2001> People, i have an idea (for the future) to organize some meetings in our cities
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[19:12] <Lucy_CI_Kirovohrad> I nice idea. When?
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[19:12] <Natasha_exchange_Kirovohrad> What's the agenda?
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[19:13] <Viktoria_Kharkov_CC_2001> We'll decide... but probably, in the first decade of May
[19:13] <sumy_iatp> Natalya Kirovograd - your site is a real nice example of personal page!
[19:14] <Natasha_exchange_Kirovohrad> Thanks!
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[19:14] <Lucy_CI_Kirovohrad> I'll be glad to join.
[19:15] <sumy_iatp> Natasha, did anybody help you?
[19:15] <Viktoria_Kharkov_CC_2001> Lucy, have you noted my email address?
[19:15] <Natasha_exchange_Kirovohrad> I had a course at our IATP center here and then did it myself.
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[19:15] <Lucy_CI_Kirovohrad> Victoria! Please, give me your e-mail.
[19:16] <sumy_iatp> greatful!
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[19:16] <Viktoria_Kharkov_CC_2001> well done Natasha!!!
[19:16] <Natasha_exchange_Kirovohrad> Thank you, guys! I tried!
[19:16] <Viktoria_Kharkov_CC_2001> Lucy : wisdomua@yahoo.com
[19:16] <Lucy_CI_Kirovohrad> Thanks
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[19:17] <Lucy_CI_Kirovohrad> Guys!
[19:18] <Viktoria_Kharkov_CC_2001> my pleasure Lucy, you can email me, I always reply
[19:18] <Lucy_CI_Kirovohrad> Today I'm impressed deeply having met so new names.
[19:18] <Lucy_CI_Kirovohrad> Victoria!
[19:18] <Viktoria_Kharkov_CC_2001> That's really great!!
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[19:18] <Lucy_CI_Kirovohrad> I'll e-mail you these days.
[19:19] <Viktoria_Kharkov_CC_2001> nice
[19:19] <Lucy_CI_Kirovohrad> Wish you the best
[19:20] <Viktoria_Kharkov_CC_2001> thank you so much, it is important to meet close souls
[19:20] <Viktoria_Kharkov_CC_2001> Bye People!!!
[19:20] <Lucy_CI_Kirovohrad> By the way, I couldn't believe that one day this miracle happens and I'll be in chat. Unbelievable!!!
[19:21] <Viktoria_Kharkov_CC_2001> See YOU SOON
[19:21] <Lucy_CI_Kirovohrad> Keep in touch
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[19:23] <Lucy_CI_Kirovohrad> Inspite of my age(I'm nearly Golden Lady) I feel young among the youth. Thanks, IREX!
[19:24] <Natasha_exchange_Kirovohrad> Bye, everyone! 't was nice seeing you all!
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