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How can I get the C class network ?
- Nowadays Internet became classless community and the notions of "A (B, C) network" class became obsolete. Instead, new IP addressing scheme called CIDR (Classless Inter-Domain Routing) and the new notion "block of addresses" have emerged. A CIDR IP address looks like a normal IP address except that it ends with a slash followed by a number, called the IP prefix.
193.193.193/24 | block of addresses 193.193.193.0 - 193.193.193.255 (totals to 256 addresses, 24 bits out of 32 - network part of the address). |
193.193.193.0/25 | block of addresses 193.193.193.0 - 193.193.193.127 (totals to 128 addresses) |
193.193.193/23 | block of addresses 193.193.193.0 - 193.193.194.255 (totals to 512 addresses) |
What IP-addresses should I use from corporate networks?
10.0.0.0 | - 10.255.255.255 (10/8 prefix) |
172.16.0.0 | - 172.31.255.255 (172.16/12 prefix) |
192.168.0.0 | - 192.168.255.255 (192.168/16 prefix) |
[RFC 1918 Address Allocation for Private Internets] |
What do I need to register my Autonomous System?
- You can register your autonomous system if you are connected to at least two different providers (ASes) and you need to switch between them from time to time. That is, AS is granted to multihomed organisations which need to define their own routing policy.
However,
- RIPC NCC accepts applications only from LIRs (this means that you have to apply to your provider).
Many AS do not allow to use their IP-addresses in others' ASes. In this case you will have to obtain provider independent (PI) addresses.
Even the fact that you are connected to two providers doesn't guarantee that you will get your own AS (like in mathematics: mandatory, but insufficient condition). You can get different IP-blocks from both providers and configure your system to use addresses of different providers for different services. True, it's not as flexible and beautiful as BGP, but it works.
: What about the procedure of changing IP-addresses in AS? Will we need to register new AS when we decide to set AS to work with our network/19, become a LIR and stop using the addresses of higher-level provider?
- No. In AS you never specify IP-addresses, only the relations with other ASs. Route object is assigned to each IP-block with AS number. You get new IP-block of addresses and just specify in "origin" the number of you old AS.
See also:
- RIPE 185 European Internet Registry Policies and Procedures
- RIPE-147 European Autonomous System Number Application Form and Supporting Notes
- RRC 1930 Guidelines for creation, selection and registration of an Autonomous System
- RIPE-181 Representation of IP Routing Policies
We have sent the request for new AS (block of addresses). Long time - no sea. How long does the whole procedure take?
- The current status of your ticket can be viewed at: http://www.ripe.net/cgi-bin/rttquery
Can I request addresses from RIPE on my own (bypassing Local Registry)?
- RIPE NCC does not work with simple users, only with Local Internet Registries (LIRs). Your can obtain IP-addresses directly from your provider or any other provider (true only about Provider Independent address space). Here is the list of LIRs http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/mem-services/general/indices/UA.html
What happens if I don't fill out the RIPE-141 form?
- If you don't, the addresses that temporarily have been assigned for you will be considered free. Hence, they can be granted to some other applicant.
How can I get AS for 193.193.210.0/24 and 62.244.59.128/26?
- There is no way you can do it.
- LuckyNet objects against announcing the parts of its networks from other ASs
- RIPE doesn't issue ASs without address space, which can be announced by this AS.
In other words, if you still need AS, you will have to get your own address space. Below is the abstract from the upcoming FAQ on this issue:
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Mandatory requirements to get AS:
a) multihomed network. i.e. you should have channels to at least to providers with independent routing.
b) you should have the address space, which you can announce "under this" AS. i.e., you should have at least one network/24, the "owner" (LIR) who would not mind if these networks switch to other AS (Note - LN have always minded that, still minds, and, as far as we can see, will mind if you do that. And not only LN...)
If a) and b) requirements are not met (in fact these are not our requirements, it's just that we have to forward your application to RIPE, and if it doesn't meet these reqs, it won't be accepted), then the only local requirement will be the application itself... In English, in accordance with ripe-147, whereby you try to prove that you really need it...
PS: : possible ways to "bypass" point b), or "how to get your own addresses":
а) become a LIR, get a PA block from RIPE, and become forever independent (free at last) from upstream providers.
Disadvantages associated with this method - for being LIR you'll need to pay a fee to RIPE from time to time.
b)get PI-addresses
b1) from "Sabana". As you might well know, in Ukraine for more or less symbolic price you can get 194.44/16...
b2) from RIPE. It's free, but you have to submit very persuasive application explaining why you are not happy with PA-space..
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I want to stress that before you get AS, make sure your upstream providers support you. Because you might find yourself in a situation when you received both your address block and AS, but your upstream provider refuses to set up BGP communication with you.
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